we are kafir; we are infidels
Cultural sensitivity & Q'ran shooting
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24774048/
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/143503D7-C942-422E-99FD-C4C2FC1ADD54.htm
First of all, isn't it funny how in the first link the story tells about how 3 people are killed during protests over the Q'ran shooting. Hey, I don't know about you, but I guess killing people is okay, since being alive doesn't mean anything and killing someone in a protest over someone who shot a book is more justified. This book is more important than someone's life. Being alive isn't important. Let's kill all kafir. The Q'ran is more important so we should just kill people over this mess. On top of that, let us ignorant fundamental militant Muslims (IFMM's) blame all Americans for being kafir. Let us IFMM's blame all Americans for one American soldier shooting the Q'ran. We're not ignorant IFMM's. We're not close-minded IFMM's of Arabia.
I heard of this story I think a week ago or maybe a little longer than that. I thought it was stupid. If this incident were done on an American installation it wouldn't have been known, and I think a verbal reprimand would be good enough, but a reduction in rank, jail, and/or a fine would be an exaggeration and unnecessary. But, this was done out at an Iraqi police station. This is so stupid. Well, this soldier was stupid. Here in America he can get away with it and I wouldn't care, even as a Christian, but if known publicly it obviously provokes Muslims, irritating to them. The media has done a lot of harm. Look what has happened now, lots of protests. You see it in the Arabian news too. Some people over there in the Middle East, devout IFMM's, kill kafir. This garbage is getting out of hand. We'll respect people who don't want to kill kafir regardless of religion. True IFMM's (notice my wording) who follow the Q'ran completely have no respect for Western ideology or democracy or other religions; these kind of people don't tolerate any of it, yet the American soldiers have to be sensitive to these militant Muslims while in their country. The soldier shouldn't have left the book after he shot it or he should've at least tossed the book in the garbage or burnt it. If I were his C/O I'd just publicly say that I gave him a jail sentence, severe punishment, plus a harsh reprimand/counseling, but not really punish him. It is all about the US gov'ts image. Hopefully the US will say that they are punishing the guy, but not really do anything to the guy and just keep him in hiding with his name not known publicly. These things tend to get blown out of proportion. Think about it though. He was in a foreign country and should've known better, should've known how overly sensitive many of the Muslims are with their religion and their "holy book." That is what the soldier gets for leaving the evidence. I don't know about you but if I did something stupid like draw some political comic at work that makes fun of our government or military or dare to provoke people from other religions, I would make sure I put it in the shredder before it causes a problem. As for freedom of expression, this soldier should be given the freedom to express his beliefs on American installations, but if he was not on American soil or on an American base (which he was not) then that is a different thing. In military we are supposed to be respectful toward people and their religions. If this soldier will not get punished in the foreign country for his "crime," then he should be left alone by our US gov't and let the soldiers chain of command deal with this matter, which hopefully they'd send him to an "equal opportunity" class. If a foreign leader asks for his punishment, as the US President I would say the soldier is punished and hope they would drop the subject. If the soldier is in a foreign country or off the military installation then he's got to be careful about the law of the foreign country because then you can be charged in that country unless the US government intervenes for your protection, which in this case the soldier is actually lucky to have been sent back to the US before the Iraqi government could detain him and possibly have him punished or killed for his "crime." But, according to the Senior army strategist Bob Maginnis:
A soldier, according to Maginnis, must display a certain respectable behavior when representing his country. "It's a cultural sensitivity that we have to embrace when you're representing your government," the retired Army officer explains. "As a member of the armed forces, you're an ambassador; and you're expected to say and do those things that bring honor to your country, and not dishonor."
If you want to talk about "cultural sensitivity" then according to many in the Iraqi culture, the United States military shouldn't even be over in the Middle East in the first place, but they ignore that fact; why should anyone care, of course since us Westerners are considered infidels to many people over there and the US assists the Israelis who are apparently pigs and we are pigs too. We who are enlisted in the military are not ambassadors, we are soldiers, sailors and airmen who do what we're told, we take orders from those appointed over us. Officers are ambassadors, kind of, more so than enlisted, but not really. We're expected to say and do what brings honor to our country? Where exactly does it say that we're supposed to do that? We do what we are told. We are expected to take orders. We don't have rights as enlisted military. We can get in big trouble with the military for not paying our bills. I can't take vacation when I want. I can't go anywhere I want. I only do what I'm allowed to do. What is being an ambassador. What is respectable behavior? Did this soldier admit that he shot the book? If so, at least he would be honest. That would be commendable. I know we're supposed to represent our country, but in a war zone the rules don't matter to the enemy. The expectations of American soldiers is very high to the US gov't, but they ignore that many IFMM's don't care if American soldiers are representing our country. We're kafir. We should be killed regardless of someone shooting the Q'ran or not shooting it at all. If this incident was never known we'd still be kafir and nothing would change the fact that IFMM's hate Americans.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24774048/
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/143503D7-C942-422E-99FD-C4C2FC1ADD54.htm
First of all, isn't it funny how in the first link the story tells about how 3 people are killed during protests over the Q'ran shooting. Hey, I don't know about you, but I guess killing people is okay, since being alive doesn't mean anything and killing someone in a protest over someone who shot a book is more justified. This book is more important than someone's life. Being alive isn't important. Let's kill all kafir. The Q'ran is more important so we should just kill people over this mess. On top of that, let us ignorant fundamental militant Muslims (IFMM's) blame all Americans for being kafir. Let us IFMM's blame all Americans for one American soldier shooting the Q'ran. We're not ignorant IFMM's. We're not close-minded IFMM's of Arabia.
I heard of this story I think a week ago or maybe a little longer than that. I thought it was stupid. If this incident were done on an American installation it wouldn't have been known, and I think a verbal reprimand would be good enough, but a reduction in rank, jail, and/or a fine would be an exaggeration and unnecessary. But, this was done out at an Iraqi police station. This is so stupid. Well, this soldier was stupid. Here in America he can get away with it and I wouldn't care, even as a Christian, but if known publicly it obviously provokes Muslims, irritating to them. The media has done a lot of harm. Look what has happened now, lots of protests. You see it in the Arabian news too. Some people over there in the Middle East, devout IFMM's, kill kafir. This garbage is getting out of hand. We'll respect people who don't want to kill kafir regardless of religion. True IFMM's (notice my wording) who follow the Q'ran completely have no respect for Western ideology or democracy or other religions; these kind of people don't tolerate any of it, yet the American soldiers have to be sensitive to these militant Muslims while in their country. The soldier shouldn't have left the book after he shot it or he should've at least tossed the book in the garbage or burnt it. If I were his C/O I'd just publicly say that I gave him a jail sentence, severe punishment, plus a harsh reprimand/counseling, but not really punish him. It is all about the US gov'ts image. Hopefully the US will say that they are punishing the guy, but not really do anything to the guy and just keep him in hiding with his name not known publicly. These things tend to get blown out of proportion. Think about it though. He was in a foreign country and should've known better, should've known how overly sensitive many of the Muslims are with their religion and their "holy book." That is what the soldier gets for leaving the evidence. I don't know about you but if I did something stupid like draw some political comic at work that makes fun of our government or military or dare to provoke people from other religions, I would make sure I put it in the shredder before it causes a problem. As for freedom of expression, this soldier should be given the freedom to express his beliefs on American installations, but if he was not on American soil or on an American base (which he was not) then that is a different thing. In military we are supposed to be respectful toward people and their religions. If this soldier will not get punished in the foreign country for his "crime," then he should be left alone by our US gov't and let the soldiers chain of command deal with this matter, which hopefully they'd send him to an "equal opportunity" class. If a foreign leader asks for his punishment, as the US President I would say the soldier is punished and hope they would drop the subject. If the soldier is in a foreign country or off the military installation then he's got to be careful about the law of the foreign country because then you can be charged in that country unless the US government intervenes for your protection, which in this case the soldier is actually lucky to have been sent back to the US before the Iraqi government could detain him and possibly have him punished or killed for his "crime." But, according to the Senior army strategist Bob Maginnis:
A soldier, according to Maginnis, must display a certain respectable behavior when representing his country. "It's a cultural sensitivity that we have to embrace when you're representing your government," the retired Army officer explains. "As a member of the armed forces, you're an ambassador; and you're expected to say and do those things that bring honor to your country, and not dishonor."
If you want to talk about "cultural sensitivity" then according to many in the Iraqi culture, the United States military shouldn't even be over in the Middle East in the first place, but they ignore that fact; why should anyone care, of course since us Westerners are considered infidels to many people over there and the US assists the Israelis who are apparently pigs and we are pigs too. We who are enlisted in the military are not ambassadors, we are soldiers, sailors and airmen who do what we're told, we take orders from those appointed over us. Officers are ambassadors, kind of, more so than enlisted, but not really. We're expected to say and do what brings honor to our country? Where exactly does it say that we're supposed to do that? We do what we are told. We are expected to take orders. We don't have rights as enlisted military. We can get in big trouble with the military for not paying our bills. I can't take vacation when I want. I can't go anywhere I want. I only do what I'm allowed to do. What is being an ambassador. What is respectable behavior? Did this soldier admit that he shot the book? If so, at least he would be honest. That would be commendable. I know we're supposed to represent our country, but in a war zone the rules don't matter to the enemy. The expectations of American soldiers is very high to the US gov't, but they ignore that many IFMM's don't care if American soldiers are representing our country. We're kafir. We should be killed regardless of someone shooting the Q'ran or not shooting it at all. If this incident was never known we'd still be kafir and nothing would change the fact that IFMM's hate Americans.
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